I always said we-bloggers must not say anything to persuade people do something dangerous, like do something to cause them preson or torture, but today obviousely this is the silnece of us get us killed. It remindes me of "lambs".
Not just the threatends of nuclear wepons and the probable war, we are getting killed right now by this regim.
Last night, "they" attacked to bus drivers' houses who had struk before, at 4 am!!! and beated women and children! and took them as hostages to find their husbands!!
They even harmed a 2 year old kid in FACE!!!
god I'm crashing down by reviewing all these...
My friends in iran say people are so hopeless and tired that won't make a move to change all these and save themselves..
another blogger sais security council must question this regim not only because of nuclear wepons, but for what day do with "human" and the "rights"!
what should we do to change this condition? ...
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It's so sad to see a brilliant people like Iranians in this shame conditions... I was said that man and woman cannot talk in streets... woman cannot take part in sport competitions like swimming. If you go to the beach there is a wall separating men from woman... Not even wine or beer one can appreciate...
Is it true? I am just curious and would like the other side of the facts...
It makes me so sorry to hear all these negative things last dasy and weeks from inside Iran :-(
YES! You asked the right question:
what should we do to change this condition? ...
Another revolution?
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hello, I'm very upset about this piece of news... I'm sorry that the iranians are ruled by a bunch of fanatics.
but, do u think the iranians are on the verge of overthrowing the ayatollah's regime? is it a likely outcome?
what do iranians think about the prospects of a return to the monarchy, i mean to a constitutional monarchy like the spanish?
there are different ideas, some people almost cry when talking about the ex-king of iran, almost everybody admire that we had a very very better condition before this revolution. On the other hand some people support secularism.
But most of people think we should have a strong leadership, religious people say some one like 12th emam, and others think of someone like Reza Khan, the former dictator who changed iran in a good way but was so strict.
but afterall, no body is doing "something". They are all just talking and regreting and seeing a dark horizon...
we don't need another monarchy, nor de we need a religious dictatorship. We need a sound constitution that has power divided properly with checks and balances for each division. This constitution needs to be drafted with the consent/input of the entire country. We need a real democracy.
thanks for the information.
do u think there's a majority for a secular democratic or autocratic model rather than a religious one with the twelth emam?
It is so good to see that there are people inside Iran against the Government. When we watch tv news we see millions of people supporting the government... even professors in Universities... So, when you speak about changing the regime I feel some hope. Tell me... people complain openly against the regime?
Salam,
It's terrible to read news nowadays. Nuclear this, cartoons that. To do something, I have written a series of posts about Iran, it's history, politics, bloggers...where I tried to give a different view on situation in Iran.
Best wishes from Finland!
If it was a few years ago, I would have said that there may not be a majority wanting a domoratic republic in Iran yet. Simply because they were closed to the rest of the world and didn't know any better, therefore they were sticking to the only thing they knew. If infomormation was allowed to flow more freely, with some good political debates, they may find that there is a better way to live, and that the world is not quite how the regime has painted it for them. But the first step is to overcome "intellectual laziness" You have to be open and want to learn. However, now the people are so hungry and immersed in tough fiscal situations, that they realize anything is better than what they've got now. Unfortunately, Ahmadinejad is dragging the people into even worse conditions, and he cannot turn back with the mess he's made now.
thanks for the explanations
but you raise even more questions! :)
don't iranians have satellite dishes?
and what about broadcasts like Voice of america and those managed by opposition groups?
is the resistance totally disorganised?
well, actually i support regime change in iran even if it requires a military assault on the mullahs. I mean no invasion but a strong support to iranian groups - with the he air force and special ops bringing support - that are willing to fight armadinejad's pasdaran and bassijis
Do you think a kind afghan scenario may succeed in allying enough iranians to topple the mullah's regime?
I was thinking about the very religiously devout and financially burdened people. Also not all know of media outlets available. I know of a few people in Iran that are open minded, but they didn't know about the blogs. You do make a good point though, the internet and satellite tv are good, so maybe people are not as uninformed as I may have suggested. I don't think an Afghan scenario would work, Iran needs to make a soverign government of its own, without foreign force. Because of Iran's history of past foreign meddling, an Afghan scenario would have people believing the new government is a puppet of the west, regardless of if it is or isn't. I believe the Iranian people need to start to agree and unite upon a set of principles that they would want in a new government. Through numerous debates, we could try to compromise on what we would want. Then perhaps a referendum could be held if the public wants what this document stands for (with some type of neutral party election observers, UN? a reformer/hardlliner committee?.....), and if the people want this new democracy, it would be voted upon. I took a stab on such a document on my blog www.i4hrd.blogspot.com. All feel free to comment, changes should be incorporated based on comments, because its for all. This final point may ruffle feathers, but I sincerely believe that in order to succeed, we will have to forgive the hardliners and let all start with a clean slate in the new government, like South Africa's end to apartheid. Otherwise, it will be an even more brutal stuggle for freedom. I ask people to comment whether on my blog, or if the person on this blog doesn't mind on his/her blog. The direction of change should be based upon what we all want. That's the only way we will succeed.
well, I've recently read the figures about the regime's oppressive machine: they got 350 000 to 750 000 revolutionary guards + 2 million bassijis!
the students account for only 1.2 million.
the regime is too strong to be removed peacefully in a nelson mandela like style!
Since ahmadinejad's reelection, the so called 'security' forces adopted an even harder stance towards the people, torture, arrests and harrassment have significantly increased.
I agree with you when you say Iran needs a sovereign government but I studied iranian history in the 20th century... most politicians were corrupted and incomptetent.
Besides the late Shah Moahmmad Reza and Prime minister Hoveyda who both had a clean vision of Iran's future (and even led the country up into the top ten world economic powers!), every single politician was an opportunistic and nepotic pundit (the secretaty general of the Human rights org in Tehran helped the mullah rise to power!!! That's outrageous!).
Today, the mullahs are not different than, let's say a Mossadegh or a Bani Sadr: they screwed the iranian people and prevented Iran's rise as a developped and respected country.
Well, I, as a foreigner, was oustandingly impressed and I must say I would have loved my country having a king like the Shah and I'd be, I am, peculiarly shocked and enraged towards the mullahs for they destroyed the rise of persia as a democratic and advanced nation and a leading example for the other muslim countries.
I'm really sorry the iranian people are living under one of the most tyrannic regime of all times. But, I don't think peaceful protest would lead anywhere! The mullahs only understand force and the iranians need help. They need funds, they need a vivid resistance network, and, if required, they need external military support. Invasion is needless as the iranians are more mature than the Afghans. But with foreign help, they can topple the regime and empower one of their own.
Dear Marsupilani,
I really appreciated your comments. I am foreigner too but I am very interested in the political and social developments in Iran. It is indeed very sad to see Iran appear in the world media as the most dangerous country in the international arena. I was watching the President's speech today and I was shocked to see how he manipulates people... How can people be conducted that way, like cattle? They say Iran has a high standart of education, but... what is that for if people are brainwashed?
Is life really hard for common iranians, or they have the basics, like transportation, school, health care? Maybe these basic conditions make them prefer a totalitarian regime...
In my opinion, it is a horrible regime... fueled by hate, destruction and fanaticism...
The combination of extremism, money and nuclear energy is the worst scenario for everybody... All nations should cut relations with Iran... this is the best way to help the wonderful Iranian people...
But that means only 3 million of the 68 million people in Iran want this regime. That makes 4% of the total population. According to the the world factbook, Iran has a population of 68 million and 68% of that are people between the age of 15-64, ~46 million.
So, the percentage of regime oppressors from the age group of 15-64 is (3 million out of 46 million) %6 of the population. The people voting on a referendum don't have to be only students, they can be the rest of the population between 15-64 too.
on more figure, the unemployment percentage in Iran, in 2004 was 11% (I would say this figure is even higher now, if it wasn't higher back in 2004). That beats the oprressor machine's 6%
In the end countries like France are realizing that they will pay a price for continuing bad conditions in other countries for cheap oil. France will sustain more and more refugees if the bad conditions in Iran worsens. Additionally, the attacks on the embassies have proven that the fundementalists are very volatile. The message that needs to be sent to the european countries is this: Dictatorships never last and if these countries continue to support them, when the new regime comes (which it will, sooner or later), they will be completely cut out of business with the new government. No oil, no business partnerships,nothing. They will have the same business opportunities in Iran as the US does now. So they can chose to do the right thing, and allow reform, and keep some business or they can loose everything by supporting a dictatorship.
Neda, are Iranians in Iran happy with Ahmadinejad now? I mean to me it seems clear that the answer would be no, but maybe I am not looking from proper perspective.
Also, do you think serious sanctions from Europe would do any good? The US has had sanctions, but since europe did not, it was not effective. Would pressure from Europe to enforce human rights and a democracy in Iran be effective?
I know so many questions, but it helps to get perspective.
dear sheernejad, what are intending to do now?
I will try to submit articles to newspapers in europe. Hopefully if Awareness on Iran's situation is raised, things may change. One of the main reasons why Apartheid South Africa's DeClerk was willing to talk to Mandela was to ease on sanctions.
Neda, I am very proud of you!! You live in a wonderful country that is undergoing a special and horrible moment. I know what it is because I am from a wonderful country in South America that also underwent a period like Iran. Things will change in the future and this will be only a page in your glorious History.
Neda, as a foreigner, I have to understand and accept multicultural differences, but I really cant understand young people in Iran supporting a regime like this. Young people tradionally are full of energy, they want transform reality, contest it, not be a vassal of authorities...
The energy of the nation should be with the young people. But in Iran they support the government... and Iran has a very high score in education... I really cant understand... Do the military support unanimously the regime?
thank you for saying you are proud of me.. I don't know what's given you this idea that young iranians support the government. I know that in general my people are desperate for someone who do something about their finantial problems and that's why some of them look at hameshemi for that and some others to ahmadinejad.
Really if we see the USA is most dangerous country in the world. People who are warried about Iran why not think this ? The USA making troubles all over the world. They got dangerous weapons more than any other country have. For 'American interest' the USA making war with poor countries and making so many damages to the civilisation and poor people. Many children are dying due to non-availability of medicine and food due to the sanction of USA. The state terrirosm of USA is the great threat now world faces. See Israil, they also have many destructive weapons including Neclear weapons. Why no body think about this and speak only on Iran. See the real thereat to the world and poor people.
I understand that the Iran-Russia talks have stalled. Why not ask teh Iranians to establish a 'Free trade zone', along the lines of the one in Dubai, the Jabal - Ali Free trade zone', and let the Russians enrich their Uranium there. Wouldn't that be a good idea?
Dear Mr./Mrs anonymous. Have you ever set foot outside of your country and/or had access to a variety of foreign and domestic news outlets, or is your only source of information some garbage propaganda from a censored and controlled dictatorial government?
Mr. Sheernejad, Thanks for your comments. Nejad, kindly open your eyes and see what is the USA doing throughout in the world. They are acting as a World Police, most of the other countries are helpless and therefore, they bow to the USA. See even Japan do so. What the USA did in Japan in WW2. The USA, Israil and some of other coutries also possess neclear weapons. But at the same time, they forcefully restrict this facility to other nations. Why ? Is it democracy ? If we speak in line with the opinion of the USA, that is democracy, otherwise they will follow that country and destroy them.
Russia was a world power some years ago, now only US is the big power. How long, if they go like this, the end will be very soon, sure. From history we see the fall of many great powers. The British philosopher, Thomas Carlyle, who won the Nobel Prize for this book 'The Heroes', describes many civilizations and their fall in his book, 'Man the Unknown'. All the reasons and the symptoms which caused for the fall of those big nations and their civilizations can now see in the USA life and administration. This speed running by crushing all will go no long !!
I think Middle Eastern countries focus too much on what the USA does. Why? It's because looking at someone else's faults is so much easier than looking at our own. We should be focusing our energies into improving ourselves. I think many Middle Easterns don't want to put the effort into fixing their own problems, because its too hard, too much work, so they conveniently blame the US for everything. I know its hard, but we have to work together and make our country into something acceptable to pass down to our children. The US may have faults, I agree. Why are we focusing so much on nuclear technology? Besides it doesn't help when our leadership is so provocative. I don't blame the west for not wanting to give Iran nuclear technology when its leadership is best friends with shady organisations like Hamas, and advertises wiping out a group of people of the map. We should put ourselves in other people's shoes. Would you want to give that kind of a country Nuclear Capability? Would you want to give a leader that doesn't think Hitler did anything wrong Nuclear bombs? The west sees how cruel and brutal the Iranian government is with its own people and they are not supposed to think that if Middle Easterners are so brutal to themselves, why would they not think twice about killing non-Muslims with nuclear bombs?
The Iranian people have more serious problems than engaging in fights with other countries. We need more jobs, a stronger economy, better hospitals, better Universities, improved human rights, better air quality... The list goes on.
Anonymous, I appreciate your comments and I think your heart is in the right place. But rather than arguing over our difference, can we try to see what we can agree on? How about I start... I'll just pick a topic...
what do you think of the human rights situation in Iran. I think it could use a lot of improvement. Do you think it could improve or you think it is fine as it is?
An interesting but dangerous question, "Whose side are u on ? With the mullas!!??" An interesting question, why ? Becuase most of the people are always interested to stand in a fixed 'side'. Mr. M. Pillami, I wish I should always be on the RIGHT side, so my 'Side' is not a fixed one, it is flexible. I can not fix my SIDE on the principle of "my country, right or wrong", I will be with my country only if it is on the right side, otherwise I will advocate my best to bring them into the right path. Make our side as on a BALANCE, it is not in one side, it is in the middle. I think, the meaning of the word 'mulla' is Extremist, that means, any body always standing on a fixed side can be called 'an extremist' or Mullas. That is why I describted Pilami's question as dangerous.
Mr. Nejad, I agree that by arguements, no benefits. "Looking at someone else's faults ..... we should be focusing ourselves .... " are constructive points. I fully agree with you, we are living in a world that looks others a lot but reluctant to look a bit into our own cases which badly needs refreshments, renovations, modifications or replacements. Regarding human rights situations, it is the most important subject that needs acute consideration, but reluctant even to think a while. Without prejudice, we can see this situation exists in all country in various forms. The major victims are the helpless and poor people who have no power to resist and voice against the injustice and cruelty. I strongly believe that females are the major part in this case. Men exploits the females in many ways. I have more to write in this subject.
hello Anonymous,
Thank you for your comments. I agree with you on the human rights. But of course the question always is, how can we improve them. An answer that I don't have. I do know that part of Iranians problems today is that we cannot agree on any one direction to move to for improvement. As a result, we are always stuck in the same place.
But in regards to your concern about the US, in my opinion, I think that problem will desolve on its own. The west is already developing the capability to fuel their own vehicles with subsitute fuels. As a result, the US would not care to bother with Iran soon. I think Iranians need to work and to try to develope our country with the fuel money we have now and to create other Industries, because this oil money will dry out in the near future.
Without freedom we cannot improve economically. As I understand, I knew an individual in Industry in Iran, who got fined "Supreme Leader Taxes", twice. The individual paid taxes, then was forced to pay again that very year, simply because the government said so.
Hi, is anyone writing on this blog currently living in Iran?
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Iran has problems like many countries before it but that is not unexcusible for the atrocities that go unheard in and out of these contries and if a people are not willing to stand and die for there country or a cause then they may be oppressed by those who will and Sheernejad a country without freedom can economically prosper look at Communist China and not all free countries prosper mexico iraq africa or democratic republic ethiopia
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